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Cheap Conversation

Perhaps I should just cave into a moment of honesty and admit to a series of rants here. But that's not my intent, so I'll decline. I'm instantly over the realization that I was effectively bounced by a pre-teen at KidsLife; I've resolved whatever internal conflict I might have previously had with regard to the element of a rant in my second excerpt of Peterson's "Christ Plays ...." So given those entries, I'm reluctant to add the following. I said reluctant ... not unwilling.

So, without giving away any details or telling tales out of school, there was a point made on one solitary moment this past week that just rested on my mind in an incredibly uncomfortable way. It was in regard to Koinonia and the small group discussion format. What registered with me was that it seems there was one person (with conversational agreement from another) that spoke negatively of being forced to have "cheap conversation" with people we don't know. I didn't think much of that at the time - other than to turn my attention to any conversation more positive than this.

That phrase apparently had ample opportunity to sink in. And, in the words of Simon Cowell, "if I'm being honest ..." the delayed reaction on my part was probably on par with one of the more comical Marcos Witt, "Hey Buddy!" type of moments. That's at least the honest reaction I now have to revisiting the conversation.

But my point isn't to passively instruct anyone else why they're wrong about this. It's to highlight something for those going forward in any small group environment that's similar to ours in Koinonia. The concept of herding a large group of folks at once and sorting them out into tables of 8 or so means that a variety of methods take place at once. On one side of the extreme, there's the cliquish table where every seat is saved and the message to any first-timer is simply "You're not one of us." At the other end, you get what I've sometimes lovingly referred to as a table of leftovers ... the people who don't fit into any particular clique, aren't good at fitting into cliques in general, and oftentimes - people who have never met one another.

And that's sorta where the "cheap conversation" crank comes in. I don't doubt that there are numerous beneficial and productive personality types beyond my own that don't adapt as easily to groups of total strangers. And to some - or, more precisely: many - it's tough to have a genuine conversation with people you've known for a grand sum of 2 minutes.

What I find unsettling, however, is that the concept of "cheap conversation" isn't a reflection of the format - as was the point in the version I heard. If I can offer this as nonjudgementally as possible, I'd suggest that it's more a reflection of the conversant. Think about it. What makes you engage in conversation that you would openly confess to as "cheap?" Is it some forcible social custom that leads you to a table that is essentially the anti-Cheers - where nobody knows your name? Or is it that we guard ourselves so heavily - well beyond what might be necessary - that we fail to make any genuine connection to someone that we're exchanging words with?

Now, I offer that with every effort to not judge the person who offered this opinion. I've been at tables where even I have to admit that the conversation - what little there was - was cheap, disposable, and seemingly non-productive. In part, that's what drove me to facilitating a table. I figured if I couldn't rely on some other MVP to crack my own introvert qualities (lovely thought they may be), I'd simply have to be the change I was looking for. I'm equally sure that, more often than not, I failed at this mission. Part of the growth process, I suppose. As luck would have it, I now get the thrill of sitting in a booth and pushing buttons during this time. Yet, in an odd way, there's a small group that forms around that as well. It's as if I've stumbled, tripped, and fallen down a flight of stairs to eventually find something of a community.

Unfortunately, I don't know of a better approach than the stumbling, tripping, and falling down a flight of stairs approach. But, for the life of me, I fail to see fault in the format or concept of Koinonia in any situation where I find myself in cheap conversation based on people I don't know, people I don't want to get to know, or people I wish I wasn't around. When I'm in those situations, I've got nobody to blame but myself. That's blame for not taking the time or interest to see past whatever it is that's holding me up with this human being that God has given insurpassable worth to; that could probably use an ounce of grace for every hundred that I need; that may have some need being met in genuine conversation that is totally out of my line of sight. In other words, if I see the conversation as cheap, then I have a hard time concluding that I'm viewing this person as cheap. And that is, I suppose, why this remark sank so deeply in me - to the point worth being blogged about. If someone sets foot in my church, earnestly seeks to go about engaging in community with fellow believers, I would have nothing but dreaded fear of being judged right then and there for my thoughts.

I'm not sure exactly how universal my conclusion is to every similar scenario here ... but I'm willing to start with the hypothesis that it's more prevalent than the one that blames the format.

Any other thoughts on this?

To the extent that this is deemed a rant, then {/rant}. I'll have far more glowing verbosity come Monday. Anyone who a) saw the service and b) knows me ... knows why.

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2 Comments

David J said:

Definitely understand what you're saying! Because it does something for me to talk about deeper stuff, sometimes a bad attitude comes when I feel like people are just interested in the weather and other boresome (to me) topics. However, as long as they're not pulling on me to become negative (which would indeed warrant my absence from their group), I try to keep in mind: What good relationships do I have now that didn't start out like that? or: What might I have that they need in the moment, even though we don't know each other? or: Could this 'cheap conversation' lead me to a divine connection? Sometimes, maybe its our responsibility to have those "sooo not interested" moments with others. Good way to build patience, as well. And we might come away learning that the more we do so, the easier- and faster- they might even become that 'good' friend with whom we share our 'deeper' selves with.

Dale Piggott said:

Greg,
How delightfully, & thoughtfully written is your "Cheap Conversation" blog posting. Thanks for letting your passion flow & thus eventually "go" onto the written page (blog;). You've clearly articulated multiple considerations in the "universe of human nature," as regards a/the Christian Single in a Church Singles Group.. Well-done grass-hauler.
Actually, I think I may have been "the one," or an additional "one" who indeed heard that particular comment; "cheap conversation."
For myself personally (if I'm remembering this accurately), and very simply said re: myself; "you have to pick your battles." In doing "this" I've learned to instantly consider the source; where it's being said/done; who-all hears it said/done; and based on that, what my response is/will/should be.
For instance, say this person were to make the "cheap conversation" remark at the upcoming MVP meeting. I would no-doubt calmly, clearly, definately and effectivly rebut that person's take & statement. I simply could not and would not let it go responsibly unchallenged.
However, I've also deeply learned that folk "in that frame of mind" are not likely at all to be convinced/challenged/talked-out of their opinion. And that to do so is to basically waste my breath, time, energy, and allow someone's useless comment & attitudes take-over & encompass an otherwise great evening of fun & fellowship. Thus, personally, in that setting, I chose to "let it go by" and personally continue-on (as I did) w/a great night of fellowship.
But! What is especially super-great is that a fine fellow like you, Greg, chose to pick-up and challenge the comment! So thanks for picking up the sword of your pen and going to task & town on this misguided attitude of narrowness or ignorance. I suppose this person might be better served by finding a church & Singles ministry more attuned to their tastes. Or perhaps start one themselves.
But, your blog-post now serves the MUCH LARGER overall conversation now coming to fruitation as to what & where & why Koinonia is to go & grow & become. Your well-stated comments re: understanding, acceptance, Christian living and just sheer logic is itself now a mini-manifesto of what should matter to us, and why... D'

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